Gr Ch Richmond 8xW

The Henry – Dibo Cross

Gr Ch Richmond 8xW

Gr Ch Richmond 8xW

This story is based on wishful thinking in a certain direction that could be  linkt, but is by no means the truth. It is just a hint for the readers to think in a certain direction when breeding bulldogs and why some of the legendary old-timers are still on the top of the mountain after all these decades of breeding their family, because they carry a big hidden secret about the truth of one of the greatest clicks in history to produce awsome bulldogs.

Some time ago I was studying the roots and backgrouwnd off my bulldogs again and of other major bulldogs from the past with the help of pedigrees on line. It went pretty good and fast I came across the Eli/Boudreaux dogs and especially the Eli dog himself and the dogs before him. To my surprise I saw that he came from light coloured dogs who where red bred and/or white buckskin and white brindle dogs traits from the Colby bloodline The Eli family turned fro m these colors black almost overnight he’s heavy Dibo inbred bred and since Dibo was one of if not the most important prepotent producer of his days it kinda looked odd that the Eli family turnd black overnight.

When I arrived at my friend’s yard in Texas, USA, we started to talk about the various Eli familys and stuff and my friend told me (who was close with Jerry Clemmends for some time and who owned the black Ni,ger Toby dog for some time that he bought off Clemmends) that Clemmends and one of the less known but best Eli breeder of the past, J.D. Elliot, had said to him “If you ever breed these dogs good and tight and a red one comes along, keep that one, as it most certainly will turn out good and you need him to breed back into your black family stock”. My friend never understood why and he told me that they never told him why. He took me to Jerry Clemmends place who I met and his very nice wife we saw the yard and his famous Six Bits dog and some others and youngsters. He didn’t have a lot of dogs around, about 12 or so, but it was educational and very nice to meet up with this old-timer and the man who bred Bullyson, Eli Jnr and Brendy. A couple of days later I was picked up by anoth er friend off mine from the Bulldog Ranch. He took me up to Louisiana and we visited Floyd Boudreaux. I was impressed  by the same looks his bulldogs had as our dogs .  what I liked about those dogs where that  most of them “”90% “”were all black.

He had a couple of red dogs some  rednosed . and you could see that they were old-time stuff like the Wallace dogs were looking .. Now I knew that his dogs were awful tight bred, but looked so good something that didn’t hit me right then. We had a lovely day and me and my wife and friend and Mr Boudreaux had dinner at a good restaurant cajun style!!. When I got back to my friends place a couple of days later I told him that these Boudreaux dogs looked too good compared with there inbred peds and that I found it odd that these 2 men after so many years in the game, still were and are the best Eli breeders around. I couldn’t help thinking about an intervie  with Danny Burton who once  said that Earl Tudor loved the Henry dogs the best and that they were big headed black dogs with reddish eyes and they were crazy to fight and nobody knew where they came from????.

In that same interview Burton said that the first ting Earl tudor told him was to know how to cheat!!.. One of my mentors in bulldogs H.F aka Dirty Harry . told me that Scotty Nelson staied  at his house in the uk for about 3 months. and during his stay there was lots of bulldog talk. And he told Dirty Harry that Eurl Tudor imported dogs from the uk up until the  mid to late 50,s !!!!.. WE know that  the gross of the STB  are black ore black brindle dogs. these dogs  compeard to APBT have (on avericht) more biting power and are very ecsplosif but lackt dept and Gameness!!. Altho acording to my other mentor they where sound and good dog  til the 50,s where they as a breed lost it.. Its also known and discused  in  intervieuws with legendary dog man of the past , that The Eli/Bullyson dogs and the alligator bullsyon crosses have Black mouths. specialy there pallets. funny  thing is  the black SBT has it to!!..I suddenly realised that it could be that Earl Tudor kept 2 familys registered under ONE name which is known as the Dibo family.  he could have these Henry dogs registered as Dibo dogs but infact they were a secret family of dogs ore at least some individuals, who when bred together made one hell of a click. Ain’t it funny that these Boudreaux bred dogs turned black overnight?? and are bred so tightly that they actually would not be able to function. Ain’t it funny that the red ones that popped up should be used to be bred in. Why was Carvers Black Widow stolen back by Tudor, who changed her name in Tudors Black snine bred to his (Dibo) Spike dog 2 times and destroyed. Why was the NI.GER dog, Earls favourite dog, with his favourite pedigree??. In them days he had the same pedigree as many other dogs around Earl’s group.

There was one difference and that was that N.GGER was black!! All of a sudden, in a time span of not that many years apart, these great known ace dogs in the likes of Eli Jnr, Bullyson, Zebo, Pit General, Alligator, and so on, popt up. I t sure is funny that most of these lines clicked very well together and/or more important clicked with the same outcross families, who YES WERE HEAVY DIBO BRED, like Snooty blood or Boomerang blood. Some of us will know the Eli(Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses of yesterday, together with the Zebo(Henry) x Snooty(Dibo) crosses and the Alligator (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses or the Zebo x Eli breedings or Alligator x Eli breedings, Bullyson (Henry) x Arts Missy (Dibo) or the Eli x Boomerang crosses and the alligator heinzl crosses. Most of these legendary dogs where a product of Henry x Dibo cross registered under one name as Dibo dogs, but in fact they where battle crosses which could be the reason them pure bred Eli dogs are still looking so good and perform good, while on paper are bred awfully tight, too tight if you ask me. Don Malony had them pure Dibo dogs, the best one he probably ever had was the Toot dog who was double bred Tudor’s Ch. Spike. Toot was like his Dibo ancestors, a real Dibo dog, light coloured red dog like Dibo and Tudor’s Ch. Jeff or what about Tudor’s Ch. White Rock and so on. Where did the black colours in Eli and the N,gger and Zebo bloodlines  came from??. Why was Black Widow stolen? Why did they steal the old Eli dog? Why did Zebo come out of the same part of the country where they knew Eli went to. , why do they say he’s a son of Eli? Why was Pit General stolen?, Not because he ore Eli was  another great dog. I think breeding had a lot to do with it as wel. Today we know that Indian Sunny had Pit general stolen. he disapeard from the game for 3 years and came back with Black dogs bred into his corvino/bolio dogs. with the most famouse dog from that line  called Grch Midnight. His stile and looks and his remaining famely that fallowed him where not the bolio corvino types.

Too many coincidences surround the legendary black aces of the past. Last but not least, the conning and stealing probably started with Tudor’s sins. NIGGER was his favourite dog in colour and pedigree but he later sold him becouse he wasn’t a hard mouthed ability dog Tudor tought he would be, he was not a cur that a lot of people think. This rumour was spred by Don Maloney who was present only with Tudor and Burton. Maloney didn’t like Tudor taking a liking in Burton. He named his son Earl. Maloney got the Dibo dogs and Burton the NIGGER (Henry blood) producing Pit General. Another ace dog who is believed to be a Henry/Dibo cross is Gr.Ch. Art. His daddy being Eli Jnr and his mommy the Java bitch, a red Carvers Pistol bred dog with some Miss Spike and Coton Bullit in there. Last but not least, bloodlines built around dogs like Chinaman whose daddy came out of Eli Jnr (Henry) x Curtis’ Sugar (Dibo) and as mentiond before Gr.Ch. Art out of Eli Jnr x sister of Sugar called Java and also the Nelis ( Henry) x Tug (Dibo) or Spike (Henry) x Tug (Dibo) breedings, Tug being Tombstone/Toot/Carvers Pistol/Miss Spike, bred all pure Dibo red bred dogs, while Nelis /Spike are Henry black bred through Alligator x Eli blood. A coincidence? !!!!! I can go on and on, but it would be nice for the readers to do some pedigree researching themselves and seek out the hidden secrets used for 30 or so years to breed outstanding dogs. Like I said it’s wichsfull thinking, and fiction??!!!!!!!, ore could some of this be true…

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